DFDS, Bygg nr. 18121009-18121012 ved Guangzhou Shipyard International Co., RoPax "Aura/Luna/TBN/TBN Seaways"

Nice report with a lot of big pictures:

- The 2 very big funnels "costs" space for 4 trucks and cover the intern ramps
- Complete separation inside between Truck-drivers (Top-deck under the bridge) and "normal" passengers at the lower public deck, so "normal" people can use only 1 public deck.
- a normal 3-star-hotelroom calls "Commodore-DeLuxe-Class-Cabin"
- generally modern design, but looking a little bit "steril" and cold - would be much better with curtains and pictures in all rooms.
- i am missing free bastu/sauna and whirlpool and also "Pullman-seats-(TV-)lounge" which would be a normal "up-to-date" ferry-comfort in 21th century. Everybody can use only the bed in the cabin or the chairs in the restaurants which is uncomfortable for longer trips, to Klaipeda it is "only" 11 hours - but it will be much longer if these ferries goes anytime in the future f.ex. on the much longer routes to Kiel or to Ireland with up to ca. 24 hours traveltime. So then 8 hours in bed and 16 hours on a small restaurant-chair ??? Or maybe on shorter ca. 9-hours-daytime-routes Kapellskär-Paldiski, then without cabin sitting 9 hours on a restaurant-chair ? Or is it 100% safe that these ferries goes the next 30 years only Klaipeda-Karlshamn ?
 
Yes, but maybe it will take longer time now until the delivery-trip to Klaipeda ? No move from LUNA since november... .
PATRIA SEAWAYS and OPTIMA SEAWAYS are in the Karlshamn-Klaipeda timetable until aug. 2022.
Then only daily 1 evening-departure in each direction and daytime both new ferries (AURA and LUNA) are in the ports of Karlshamn and Klaipeda until 20:00/ 21:00. All former morning-departures are away from aug. . This means that there is a new "market niche" for TT and others to offer cheap morning-departures from south-Sweden to Klaipeda without to have to book a cabin.

The old smaller PATRIA SEAWAYS is officially for sale and i think that OPTIMA SEAWAYS will go in aug. to Kapellskär-Paldiski and the faster SIRENA SEAWAYS will go then to the Brexit-Bypass-Route to Ireland. Actually no timetables to see on these routes from aug. ... .
 
Eg synest skorsteine og heile hekken igrunn ser noko mislykket ut. Svære breie firkantede tårn, som atpå ikkje er symetrisk plassert! Formen på heile skuta minner mest om 80 tals ferjene typ Trelleborg, Peder Paars og Dronning Ingrid med søsken, Peter Pan (1986), m.fl...legoklosser!
Syns de minner mer om Superflex-ferjene fra rundt 1990 i så fall
 
At Christmas awaited in Singapore... . 4 years from order to "traffic-start" ca. in march 2022... .
Really interesting ferries... , 2 very big asymmetrical chimneys and a very special ships-bow, all other new ferries 2021/22/23 (f. ex. Viking Glory, Tallink Megastar, TT new Nils Holgersson, Honfleur, Stenas E-Flexer, Finnsirius, Badji Mokhtar III, TT-Australia-RaumaMarine, Manxman, Queen Jenuvia etc.) has another ships-bow... .
Maybe only the newest 206m Visentini for Corsica Linea "A Galeotta" and the new Moby Fantasy/Magic has a similar ships-bow as the DFDS Aura/Luna.
But which ships-bow is better ?
Which means less fuel-consumption ?
It looks like these will only have the ability to drive on/off over the stern, isn't that a bit old-fashioned nowadays?
 
Yes - the bow looks a little bit like the old "Titanic-Design" - but maybe this is better for less fuel-consumption - the ship is "cutting" the sea. But only 1 big wide stern-ramp on a wide ferry (31,60m) is very modern again. Trucks can easy turn inside the ship and the building-price will be lower if they can save the money for a complicated bow-door with "double-Schott". Also less maintenance-work and costs all her lifetime later. And with a wide stern-ramp 3 or 4 trucks can parallel roll in or out very fast - with a bow-door only 1 by 1 much more slowly.
 
I actually first thought these were regular carferries, but I see now that they are primarily for trucks only, so that makes things a bit different I guess
 
Without knowing it, I would imagine you will get a much better bow/hull design without a bow door, so the savings on longer sailing is much higher regarding time usage and fuel consumption compared to what you "loose" for a slightly longer turn around time in ports when vessel need to turn on all arrivals
 
Yes - the bow looks a little bit like the old "Titanic-Design" - but maybe this is better for less fuel-consumption - the ship is "cutting" the sea. But only 1 big wide stern-ramp on a wide ferry (31,60m) is very modern again. Trucks can easy turn inside the ship and the building-price will be lower if they can save the money for a complicated bow-door with "double-Schott". Also less maintenance-work and costs all her lifetime later. And with a wide stern-ramp 3 or 4 trucks can parallel roll in or out very fast - with a bow-door only 1 by 1 much more slowly.
To me it looks like there are three separate rear ramps, not one very wide one?
 
There are also cars on these ferries - but - as you said - they are primarily for trucks designed. And sure - there is not 1 x ca. 30m wide ramp but 3 ramps - 1 bigger wider in the middle and 2 normal ramps beside left and right = 4 trucks can parallel in or out.

If we calculate ca. 10-12min for 1 turn in a port i think they save more time with the faster loading of more than 200 trucks and trailers via the wide big stern-ramps instead through a narrow bow-door. Max. Loading-capacity is more than 230 trucks, think only 200 leaving the ship and then 200 new trucks entering the ship = 400 vehicles passing the stern-ramps OR the bow-door... . So i think this is a good fast and cheap solution with the use only of stern-ramps.
 
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Antakelig? Men vogntog har jo ofte doble hjul, da er det jo fire hjul på en enkelt aksel
Hei,

husk på at dem bruker traller for frakt av container, tunge maskiner eller hele lokomotiver og vogner. I slike tilfeller kan det godt bli 48 tonn på 2 aksler, når eit lokomotiv veier mellom 80 og 120 tonn.
 
Hei,

husk på at dem bruker traller for frakt av container, tunge maskiner eller hele lokomotiver og vogner. I slike tilfeller kan det godt bli 48 tonn på 2 aksler, når eit lokomotiv veier mellom 80 og 120 tonn.
Hvordan er dagens ferjer som går på utenlandsrutene fra Norge merka? Gamle "Kronprins Harald" og "Prinsesse Ragnhild" mener jeg bestemt var merka akkurat som vanlige innlandsferjer, med 13 t aksellast og 4.5 m frihøyde, "Peter Wessel" hadde vel det samme (mulig 15 t aksellast)... Har vel blitt mer tungtransport/containere etc på en del av disse rutene og, Oslo sine nye T-banevogner kom vel med "Color Magic"/"Color Fantasy" i sin tid
 
LUNA SEAWAYS has now left the yard in China and is on the way to Korea (and then further to Europe)es in the Baltic
 
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